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Audio Refugees • View topic - old news still applies

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old news still applies

Postby cjdenecia » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:31 pm

http://rdstreets.hubpages.com/hub/Top-1 ... is-Failing

this article, brought to my attention by another independent artist promoter, may be partially old news but there's still a lot of truth to it.

#8 is something we tried to address at indieNetunes (the defunct website I was a founder of that WAS a music filter) but we found that without the money for marketing, no amount of good ol' fashioned A&R work mattered ....

the other 9 reasons are certainly valid too - and we simply need to figure out a way to return to basics on at least a few of them before music will mean what it once did to the general public.

I especially appreciate the ones that talk about how the industry has fallen apart due to safe music and a lack of musical talent being pushed as talent. and unfortunately, that holds true big as life in the indie arena too. talent is highly underappreciated anymore.

ya think?
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Postby ingolee » Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:21 pm

A couple of thoughts about talent. You point out how we can intuitively judge musical ability in people and how a lot of it is obvious. A couple of things I think about a lot on this subject:

We all know obviously talented people who accomplish very little, and people with modest talent who accomplish a lot, musically or otherwise. A lot of this has to do with management I think. I'm sure you can name lots of artists who had good careers because they did the right thing at the right time. Whether or not they figured it out for themselves or had some promotional wizard helping out, the result was the same. You might say, "that makes it harder for the truly talented groups to get a break" and there's certainly some truth to that, but if the net result is people enjoying music of whatever quality, as you say, that's not really a bad thing. I think everyone who considers themselves to be an artist has the responsibility to look at their life and understand what the important choices are, and not avoid making those choices. I'm sure we could all use some help with that task.

The other thing is being able to recognize talent looking forward, not backward. In 1967 there were a lot of successful jazz guitarists who listened to Hendrix and said he had no talent and would be a failure. The jazz guys based that judgement on many years of knowing very talented and successful musicians, but they couldn't look forward, which is a handicap we all have. Is there a way to avoid making that mistake? Probably not, but I think about that a lot.
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